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WouldLuv2FightU
10-26-2006, 05:14 AM
I took Taekwondo for a good 9 years (3-4 days a week) and earned my 2nd degree black belt just before the dojo closed down due to an expired lease and the owners couldn't keep up with the rent. My instructor incorporated A LOT of Akido in his lessons. I really loved the Akido, it was a lot of fun. If you can excel in Akido, you can win almost any fight. The problem with Akido is that it deals mostly with joint manipulation, and I'm pretty sure some of it is not allowed in the UFC. They have a rule against "small joint manipulation" which I'm assuming means fingers and maybe even wrists. But I don't see why the armbars and throws I learned would be not allowed. Anyway, on with how to do a standing armbar the way I know how.


Now the standing armbar can usually only be done when someone is punching you. The only way you can fail at not tapping someone out with this move, is if your opponent is significantly larger than you, significantly stronger than you, or is extremely tough, or is extremely agressive and relentless with his attack. We will assume that the opponent is punching with his right hand.

Step 1.) When the (right hand remember) punch is about halfway to you, the first thing to do is get ready to block. Take your left arm and hit the inside of your opponents right arm hard enough to almost deflect it. (Basically a strong backfist) A good thing to do is punch to the face at the same time with your other hand to throw them off a bit.

Step 2.) After the punch has been deflected, do not pull your blocking (left) hand back yet. After you actually hit your opponents arm, you want to follow through and make a big "C" shape. Always making sure that you're bringing his arm around THE OUTSIDE of your body. In other words, if you're using your left hand, you will be moving your opponents arm counterclockwise, and if you're using your right hand, then it will be clockwise. Either way it's ALWAYS around the OUTSIDE of your body. Follow through with the backfist, and at the same time open your hand to grab the forearm or bicept of your opponent. As you are moving your hand with his arm, you want to bring it outside on the left hand side of your body and just basically make a big "C" with your and your opponents arm.

Step 3.) While you are bringing the arm around the outside of your body, slide your left hand that is holding the bicep/forearm down to the wrist. By the time you are finished making the "C" shape, your opponents arm should be close to your waist, with you having a firm grasp on his wrist, and his arm should be twisted upside down and depending on the size difference, his elbow is bent the opposite direction similar to a kimura.

Step 4.) Don't let go. After your arms are down near your waist, you are going to finish the motion by bringing your opponents arm back up. So the "C" shape has now become just a big circle. BUT, when the arms are down near your waist, this is when you want to begin to spin around, with your pivot foot being the same side foot that you have a hold of the arm with (left). It also helps to keep your knees bent while doing this for better leverage.

Step 5.) You should now be on your way back around the "O". By the time your opponents arm is back at eye level, it should be completely upside down, and you should be facing the opposite direction as him. With his wrist still firmly grasped with your left hand, you're gonna place his arm on your left shoulder. Make sure his elbow is on your shoulder. Your knees should still be bent a little, and you can now grab his wrist with your other hand, and use both hand to slowly pull down his arm towards the floor. When you want them to tap, slowly raise up since your knees should still be bent, you are sort of squating. The higher you raise, and the more you pull down on his arm, the worse it's going to hurt for your opponent.

This may sound complicated but it's actually quite simple and extremely effective. I can do it all in one motion and it only takes like a second and a half from start to finish. I don't understand why people in MMA don't use this armbar, it was always successful for me, and I've done it to hundreds of people of all sizes. I'll try to find a video later and maybe that could help explain it better than what I did. Once you master it, it will become your favorite technique. It's not for everyone though. I have EXTREMELY fast reflexes, (thanks to my training in Akido and TKD) so for me it's not too hard to catch a punch that is halfway to my face. Like I said, if your opponent is relentless in his attack, then obviously this move won't work, because as soon as you grab the arm, you're gonna get rocked with a punch from his other hand. What makes this move a lot easier, is punching to the body and face immediately after you grab the arm. This way he gets loosened up and distracted, and will have a much harder time fighting it. Another thing to remember, is if your opponent is expecting you to do this move for whatever reason, it is pretty easy to defend if your opponent is stronger than you. That's why I said it's best when done fast, and it's best if you loosen your opponent up with a quick jab to the face or body immediately after you catch his punch.

WouldLuv2FightU
10-26-2006, 05:46 AM
Actually this was unknown to me at first, but this move is actually moreless a judo move than Aikido. I did some research learned that Judo and Aikido are quite similar, but Aikido has a lot to do with spirtual things and Judo is straight up Judo. I guess I learned some Judo in my TKD training as well. I was also taught TONS of throws, that I always thought were Aikido, but now I'm starting to think they were Judo throws. The aikido I learned was mostly defending against weapons and doing wrist locks and such. The 2 martial arts are very similar, so forgive me for not clarifying earlier.

brvheart
10-26-2006, 09:33 AM
Nice work man! Thanks for this. The standing armbar is one of those things that with practice becomes lethal ;)

WouldLuv2FightU
10-26-2006, 07:14 PM
Nice work man! Thanks for this. The standing armbar is one of those things that with practice becomes lethal ;)

Exactly. That's why I love it. Also, if you happen to screw up in the middle of doing it, it can easily be turned into a judo throw by just taking the arm and instead of placing it on your shoulder, just take it and throw it over your shoulder and bump you hips up against the guy and just basically do a regular hip throw, but he will actually go over your shoulder and flip and hit the ground pretty hard.

brvheart
10-26-2006, 09:07 PM
what you are describing is a Seo Nage in Japanese Ju-Jitsu ;) arm/shoulder throw.

WouldLuv2FightU
10-26-2006, 10:12 PM
what you are describing is a Seo Nage in Japanese Ju-Jitsu ;) arm/shoulder throw.

Sounds right to me

Boo
10-26-2006, 10:18 PM
Was the Tae kwon do you practiced happen to be at an ATA school?

WouldLuv2FightU
10-26-2006, 10:24 PM
Not sure what an ATA school is so prolly not?

Boo
10-27-2006, 01:18 AM
Not sure what an ATA school is so prolly not?

Yeah, you would know. I asked because they also incorporate a lot of other fighting styles into their TKD. Also do weapons training.

I'm telling you man, TKD or similar is starting to creep back into MMA.

WouldLuv2FightU
10-27-2006, 09:49 AM
Yeah, you would know. I asked because they also incorporate a lot of other fighting styles into their TKD. Also do weapons training.

I'm telling you man, TKD or similar is starting to creep back into MMA.

OK then I guess I did go to an ATA school. I just didn't know. I went from age 9-18. From ages 9-14 I didn't know or care about anything about my dojo itself or the specifics. And from 14-18, I was already a 1st degree black belt, all I went for was competing and sparring tournaments, I still was clueless to the specifics of what I was doing. That is why I at first said the standing armbar was Akido when really it is Judo. I wasn't aware of that until I made this thread and tried to find a video.

My school had a LOT of weapons training. We must have done at least a half hour of weapons training every day. I can defend very well against knifes and bats. We used plastic bats and pieces of styrophoam cut in the shape of knives. After 9 years of that, I am pretty confident I will never get my *** kicked by anyone.

So they taught me:
-TKD (20%)
-Judo (10%)
-Jiu Jitsu (5%)
-Weapons training (15%)
-Aikido (15%)
-Kickboxing (35%)*

*I only say 35% for ME because I was more into the sparring than anything else.

I'm guessing this is an ATA school right?

brvheart
10-27-2006, 10:39 AM
sounds like it.....someone should make a "what do you practice" thread ;) hint hint nudge nudge :D

WouldLuv2FightU
10-27-2006, 12:07 PM
Can't edit my last post but I wanna clarify that I also learned a lot of weapons training in the offensive department as well.

jjmoneydawg
10-28-2006, 02:28 AM
man, I'm gonna have to try this with in class, with someone i trust lol